Discussion in '☋ General Chat ☋' started by pickled_newt, Jan 13, 2008.
Brit and Pinay in love
Not everything is conquered by love when it happens this way. Adultery is a nasty thing to engage in. OTOH, love is a many splendored thingy. I'd say--negotiate. A strong supposition rings hard in my mind based on the item I read earlier in one of the entries, that the pregnant girl has been separated from her husband for three some years. Get a good lawyer who has the reputation of really helping. Three years separation might serve as a good ground for settlement. Was the husband actively supporting the Delfino girl during the three years? Did he provide as was/has been his obligation? Did he take good care of the girl during the three years though separated? Offer amicable settlement, take out and offer some money in the negotiation. I am not saying buy a person. What am saying is that tis could be the solution to get out of this mess!
I second that Swany. Additionally, labeling the Philippines as a "third world country" is not only inaccurate but a bit derogatory. More correctly, the Philippines is a "developing country".
On the other hand, the absence of a legal divorce option is very archaic and virtually forces certain individuals into adulterous situations. I'm not saying the Philippines should adopt a "no fault" divorce law but certainly should for cases of abuse, either emotional or physical. This would include, of course, adultery. Those situations are even biblical which a government claiming a Christian base should have no problem adopting.
This topic may not be directly related to the City of Dumaguete but it is a good reminder to foreigners of the differences in the laws and how they are enforced. Not only are some archaic but they are not enforced equitably. The many individuals in adulterous relationships are known and largely ignored but someone must have had their ego bruised in this situation.
Thanks for your support and understanding Timn8ter. His derogatory remark about Philippines was kind of inappropriate. I guess he doesn't know much about the country. But jumping in the middle without introducing himself first is not acceptable to me.
I agree 100% with your comments about legalizing divorce in P.I. Broken marriage are all over the country. There's no way of legalizing the situation but to split and go on separate ways, but children suffer most and usually individuals are driven into a adulterous relationship which is very much against the church.
Not just derogatory but downright offensive. Ignorance is indeed, bliss.
The point of the thread
That is exactly the point in my opinion. The Philippines has a lot of laws, most of them completely ridiculous like this one, and most of them very rarely enforced. But then sometimes they are suddenly enforced with great vigor, because it suits somebodys interests. And thats really all there is to it.
Unfortunatly the only really lesson to be learned from this story is, that the Philippines is a horrible place to be, because the individual has no rights and no protection at all. So the only sensible thing to do is to leave the country as soon as possible, if you have any chance of doing so at all.
China, Russia, Brazil, India..these are examples of developing countries.
Philippines is a third world country, ranking dead last even within SEAsia in terms of growth.
I dont think we should call a fatass "thin" just to be polite.
Taking advantage of others
Without having any chance of knowing for sure, isn`t that what this case is all about in the first place? The husband pressing charges in the hope to get some money out of this "rich" foreigner in a settlement? These things happen all the time!
To those (quite a few) who have made moral judgements about adultery in this thread: Yes, adultery is bad, but please try to separate things here. Adultery is a personal matter between the married cupple. It should not be matter for the law at all, and certainly it is not a "crime" worth 7 years in jail.
This law is completely ridiculous, and if it was really enforced, then at least 50% of the population would be in prison, since filippinos are no different from people in other countrys in this aspect of life. Just as an example, I know two guys in Dumaguete, who are married, but who also have kids with another women (whom they support). And guess what? These guys are not in jail. Why? Well obviously because they are not "rich" foreigners, and their wifes are not friends with the chief of police.
This nation spend 6 years and a lot of the taxpayers money to prosecute former president Estrada for corruption. And what happens? Two weeks after he is convicted, and before the case has been tried in supreme court, his former vicepresident, who took over his seat, when he left, decides that all charges should be dropped!
So apparently it is ok to steel several billion peso from the people, if you are president, but if you are a "rich" foreigner and have sex with a married woman, then both of you should go 7 years to jail (or pay a lot of money to her husband).
What a country and what a farce!
"Only in the Philippines".
Well, TiP is gone (don't discount "reincarnation") but I'd still like to try and clear up something about the term "third world" along with "first world" and "second world". These terms did not originate in economics but in Cold War ideology and are no longer used by theorists. The way I hear the term used these days is nearly interchangeable with "backward". Next time you hear "third world" used ask the speaker what he/she would consider "second world".
I think most people agree the Philippines has problems. The reasons are many and varied but let's not be insulting.
At the same time, regardless of how it started, the term is used and applies to countries where the majority of people live in poverty with little hope for advancement. The key word is underdeveloped, but that can be interpreted more than one way. It's not insulting to say that the Philippines fits the description, it's reality. Gloria says it's not, but she lives in another world.