⌛ Comical Non smoking lobbist found in Dumaguete Public Market bar

Note I am not the guy that reads books in the market place and rudeness is not being politeness nor could be considered as being politically minded. The poor newcomer with his book tut tut Robert. The d*mn place you sit in sells the d*mn weed and filipino's buy a stick or two and smoke them.

Tut tut tut. By diving deep its not smokers that Robert dislikes its actually Brits. He has a problem with a few Brits on the Boulevard, I have heard about this guy Robert but its the first time I have met him. Now its all coming into place the guys a rationalist and picks on Brits. Tut Tut I have more German and Polish blood than British.

However to put shadow at rest on his request for me to migrate to the Boulevard. I drink tomato juice and smoke out side and do not enjoy the night life as ones I did as an alcoholic sot. So unfortunately I am not going on a kamiKasi mission to kill all those alcoholics with my passive smoke.

So no I prefer the coffee shops, driving around and my journalism and running a few websites and of course taking pictures and painting seascapes and my abstract art. It so much better than being in a pertinent daily drunken stupor and making love to woman I could not remember the next day. I have finally got a life that especially is not revolve around a stinking bar in a Filipino market place.

As I do not drink other on well controlled occasions as I used to be the perfect depressive binge drinker as your friend Robert. However it is time to cut my filthy habit in away this whole thing as kick started my need to worry about my health and the wishes of my doctor.

Life is not like its seen through the bottom of a bottle and there are far more better things to do with your life.

 

First, my oppologies if you did not have a book, as the incident I witnessed the person in question clearly did.

Robert does not discriminate, he simply has a hard time getting along with anybody. It doesn't matter if your a Brit, American, German, or an Eskimo, nor whether you smoke, drink, live in a monastery, or are a man who wears dresses. He simply hates most everybody.

It is also true as someone else in this thread pointed out that the ex drinkers and ex smokers are the worst of the lot when it comes to winging about those that still partake. To me it seems rather hypocritical, but to each their own. I don't hang out at night on the boulevard (or the market) but prefer to spend most of my time in a much more peaceful and clean environment that that found in most of Dumaguete.

Larry

 

Simple common courtesy should have no boundaries. What difference does it make WHERE you are, as to how courteous you are to others? I expect the locals to act rude and offensive, as they simply don't know any better. However, most expats SHOULD know better, and most do. It's just a few seem to have no common decency toward others.

Larry

 

to smoke in a bar where it's allowed and not smoke in where it's banned is courtious? no?

 

Yes it make me sick as well and the grandpa normal has a young wife at home of whom he treated as a door mat and as no idea what she feels about his drunkenness.

These guys tend to think their money makes them handsome and possibly the wife is involved because she just wanted to get out of poverty. Then sticks with the arrogant drunken beast because she still can help her family and what else can she do.

 

Well I really hate to see people get drunk but as yet I have never seen anyone courteous to that factor. One can enjoy oneself with out getting blotto and being a drunken bum. I can not go anywhere but places where old fogies are putting beer down their throat like the is no tomorrow. Drinking is a bad habit and why should us non drinkers put up with it. I feel sorry for the guys wives and what a waist of space some of these guys can be.

Smoking where its allowed is nothing its common decent not to complain in such areas and as like I leave a place were a drunk mouths of and is annoying a non smoker should move to a place that's non smoking or even advoid such places as I do the bars at nightime. Else live and let live

Today I revisited the bar talked to the owner and contary to what you where saying it would seem most of the Filipino's in the market place no about yesterdays incident and its given great amusement to one and all. I actual realised to day this Robert guy actually walked and stood in my smoke drifting away into the street. Then the stupid complaint was made.

Now I have noted in my investigation that there is a bunch of foriegns sitting and belching that are a anti smoking league unto their own. One of the drinkers got up and smoked away from the small group of anti smokers and they where siting in another bar that sells cigarettes by the stick to Filipino's its a comical farse. Here we have a bunch of drunks drinking cheap beer in the market place in places filipino's go to smoke.

Then after drinking 8 bottles of beer or so they drive away on their motor bikes thinking its safe for them to do so. What buggers they are, they dont want to be killed by passive smoking but then dont care if they get into an accident kill themselves or others.

Of course this type of stupidity goes on at the Boulevard as well but some owners are responsible and try to take the drivers keys away. But the norm is stupid drunks think it safe to drive when drunk. No one cares in the market place so we end up with a bunch of drink and drive cronies and some that are anti smoking.

Well that's life and the way it is and how crazy people can be. If guys don't like smoking why are they meeting and drinking in area that people can buy cigarettes sit down and smoke. Lack of commonsense and possibly low intelligence is the main factors.

 

To smoke anywhere outside of your own home, and allow your smoke to go into anyone's face, smoking bar or no, is in my opinion very *** rude. All it takes is just a little self conciousness where your smoke is going, and few outside of Robert and his ilk will complain.

I do realize this is a mite much for some to understand.

Larry in Dumaguete

 

Larry so you lead a life like I do, but of course drop in at some of these places in the day time to meet friends of just chat to someone sensible. That's commendable in my book I myself like the peaceful life that's why I moved to duma and that's why I live on the quiet outskirts of the city. I only normally drink a coke in the market after buying fish, vegetables and fruit. I often drop in for a tomato juice at Happy Fred's or drink coffee at Mac Donald's never stay long as I spend a lot of time on line writing and running a few websites that I am continually designing and improving.

My partner like peace and quiet too, but of course loves to shop till she drops or to start a business or two in her home town, she even owns a pig or two. lol

Don't worry about being mistaken and truthfully I am not upset about Robert's attitude but love to write about such things and debate.

What you have highlighted that's important Robert has a troubled life and he is making things worst for himself with depression related drinking. I expect at first it was binge related, but now a constant daily practice at a guess. Unfortunately he needs help but will not listen or take it at a guess. Guys like that need a wake up call and only can help themselves by stop drinking or drinking much much less. How do I know been there and wore the T-Shirt. I was such a selfish b@st@rd but not as unsocial as this guy Robert.

 

I fully understand that's why I smoke out side and not inside any establishment If the wind going the wrong way I do not smoke or I change seats. i packed up smoking for three years and unfortunately succumbed to smoke again in a bad part of my life. My smoke was drifting away street wards and that's why I was shocked at Robert of whom step into my smoke then complained still standing in my smoke on the pathway.

When I have friends visit my house that don't smoke or if I am in their company anywhere I do not smoke in their company. When other people are smoking in a bar yes I will light up. But I would rather smoke out side and if someone ask me polietly I put my cigarete out. I know I am not the only smoker that does this many British guys do the same. I once sat in an office and my client on seeing a packet of cigarettes when I opened my brief case, suddenly retorted would you like to smoke cause I want to too.

We had been talking for about two hours there was an ashtray on the table but both of us thought the other did not smoke. Similar happens have taken place in lunch time meetings with clients and bank managers over the years. Smokers that are sensible and caring do not blow smoke into peoples faces. it of course is a different matter if they are drunk and I for one can not stand any one blowing smoke into my face.

However what amuses me a non smoker will sit in a car belching polution that is 100 times worst than passive smoke and think nothing of it. Why is it smoking was blamed for lung cancer and no emphases are placed on the real health dangers of automobiles and their exhaust its far more dangerous than passive smoke motor vehicles should of been banned a long time ago. There really has never been an emphasis on the lung damage from that bigger and nastier polution problem.

 

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Of course this type of stupidity goes on at the Boulevard as well but some owners are responsible and try to take the drivers keys away.

Really In 15 years here I've never seen that on the BLVD noplace