I am not happy with the health care bill in it's current form either. I don't think it goes far enough. To address some of your points: The VA and Medicair have no comparison to what they are planning. Does this mean that you think the VA system and medicare are good? I happen to agree. The VA is similar to the UK socialized Medical system. Government employed docs in clinics or hospitals no choice. Medicare is similar to the Canadian system. Single payer choose your own doc. Healthcare is already "rationed" and will be further rationed if and when Obamacare ever happens. It is already rationed by the insurance industry purely for profit. They are the real bad guys in all this. What they are proposing is not a fix, buy a giant step backward in healthcare! If it was simple, straightforward, and cost effective why does it need 2,000 pages of legislation? I don't know for sure but I have heard the figure 17% of the nations economy goes to health care. This being the case does 2000 pages seem too much. I know it would tax the intellectual capacity of many in congress but that is why they have staff, to provide them cribb notes. Do you think a plan to change 17% of the economy should be written on the back o0f an envelope? With a 1.3 TRILLION $$ cost and WAY higher taxes it will destroy the way of life in the U.S. as we know it. Will you be able to live on 30-40% of your earnings after taxes? Most Americans won't! The tax rate in socialized Europe averages around 70% with some approaching 90%!! Please tell me the source for these figures. I suspect someone has been feeding you misinformation. Have you donated to a hospital lately? How about the line on your federal taxes where it asks if you would like to "donate"? Would you rather voluntarily "donate" or be forced to "donate" to a woefully inefficient and wasteful federal government? I don't have enough income to pay tax. And come to think of it wouldn't that donation be handled by a woefully inefficient and wasteful federal government. It never ceases to amaze me when people "care" about the healthcare of others yet are unwilling to voluntarily donate their $$ to help them and would rather be forced to give $$ to the government!! The whole idea of having a government is that some things can best be done by governments. It is sort of like building roads. If we depended on everyone to voluntarily pave the road in front of their house some would do it gladly and many would not. There are many things too important to society as a whole to allow for purely voluntary compliance.