Totally agree - hindsight is easy - made easier by armchair generals, experts and analysts we always see on TV :p and us discussing this at the comfort and safety of our computers. I mean no disrespect - just writing out loud my thoughts - after all, isnt this the concept of a forum Had a passenger knowledgeable about guns was packing, he could have taken out the hostage taker while his back was to him, 3 yards away or less - that is no guarantee but chances are there would be less than 8 dead tourists. If one couldnt hit a target at 7 yards or less, he has no business owning a gun much less packing it. :D VTech massacre, had teachers/students been allowed to carry, there'd be lesser than 30+ people dead (again, not guaranteed but fatter chance), the gunman would have been taken out earlier. Allowing carry dont mean itd make people trigger happy . If that were true, campuses across Utah would be littered with corpses by now. :D A curse if a gun is in the wrong hands, a blessing if it prevents further carnage. A bad guy would think twice opening fire if he *thinks* some of the intended victims are armed - in this case, a preventive measure, if you will.