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  1. pickled_newt

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    Sounds real pessimistic painting the Philippines worse than US in crimes , anywhere in the world ? are you close to saying worst than Iraq ? When you look at world statistics you have to refer to a few or more authoritative sources than only one and that will paint a fair picture.According to 2006 of the NCCD, the US incarcerates the largest number of people in the world ( I suppose with population of over 301 million ,and having mega resources ,what will you expect ).This incarceration rate is four times the world average. Though the Philippines hasn’t enough prisons to lock up all the criminals but all in records if then exceeding the data per capita of that in the US ,the Philippines must be all in it’s way raving the international headlines of crimes and murders.I haven't seen it in the news here in UK.Infact brazil ,South africa are on the spotlight this time of criminalities worsening.

    Making the comparison of Philippines worse than the US crime rate per capita then you should see this data compiled between 1998-2000, this would still reflect the global crime scene useful to date .The Philippines wasn’t even there ,or they must have missed it out .This was done by the Seventh United Nations Survey of Crime Trends…give us a break @ Visayas .You deserve the reward scaremonger band in your head .You need to take your anti-depression meds or get your head check again .lols:D

    take a look:wink:

    NationMaster - Statistics > Murders (per capita) by country

    Crime Statistics > Murders (per capita) by country
    VIEW DATA: Totals
    Per capita
    Definition Source Printable version

    Bar Graph Map

    Rank Countries
    Amount (top to bottom)

    #1 Colombia:
    0.617847 per 1,000 people
    #2 South Africa:
    0.496008 per 1,000 people
    #3 Jamaica:
    0.324196 per 1,000 people
    #4 Venezuela:
    0.316138 per 1,000 people
    #5 Russia:
    0.201534 per 1,000 people
    #6 Mexico:
    0.130213 per 1,000 people
    #7 Estonia:
    0.107277 per 1,000 people
    #8 Latvia:
    0.10393 per 1,000 people
    #9 Lithuania:
    0.102863 per 1,000 people
    #10 Belarus:
    0.0983495 per 1,000 people
    #11 Ukraine:
    0.094006 per 1,000 people
    #12 Papua New Guinea:
    0.0838593 per 1,000 people
    #13 Kyrgyzstan:
    0.0802565 per 1,000 people
    #14 Thailand:
    0.0800798 per 1,000 people
    #15 Moldova:
    0.0781145 per 1,000 people
    #16 Zimbabwe:
    0.0749938 per 1,000 people
    #17 Seychelles:
    0.0739025 per 1,000 people
    #18 Zambia:
    0.070769 per 1,000 people
    #19 Costa Rica:
    0.061006 per 1,000 people
    #20 Poland:
    0.0562789 per 1,000 people
    #21 Georgia:
    0.0511011 per 1,000 people
    #22 Uruguay:
    0.045082 per 1,000 people
    #23 Bulgaria:
    0.0445638 per 1,000 people
    #24 United States:
    0.042802 per 1,000 people
    #25 Armenia:
    0.0425746 per 1,000 people
    #26 India:
    0.0344083 per 1,000 people
    #27 Yemen:
    0.0336276 per 1,000 people
    #28 Dominica:
    0.0289733 per 1,000 people
    #29 Azerbaijan:
    0.0285642 per 1,000 people
    #30 Finland:
    0.0283362 per 1,000 people
    #31 Slovakia:
    0.0263303 per 1,000 people
    #32 Romania:
    0.0250784 per 1,000 people
    #33 Portugal:
    0.0233769 per 1,000 people
    #34 Malaysia:
    0.0230034 per 1,000 people
    #35 Macedonia, The Former Yugoslav Republic of:
    0.0229829 per 1,000 people
    #36 Mauritius:
    0.021121 per 1,000 people
    #37 Hungary:
    0.0204857 per 1,000 people
    #38 Korea, South:
    0.0196336 per 1,000 people
    #39 Slovenia:
    0.0179015 per 1,000 people
    #40 France:
    0.0173272 per 1,000 people
    #41 Czech Republic:
    0.0169905 per 1,000 people
    #42 Iceland:
    0.0168499 per 1,000 people
    #43 Australia:
    0.0150324 per 1,000 people
    #44 Canada:
    0.0149063 per 1,000 people
    #45 Chile:
    0.014705 per 1,000 people
    #46 United Kingdom:
    0.0140633 per 1,000 people
    #47 Italy:
    0.0128393 per 1,000 people
    #48 Spain:
    0.0122456 per 1,000 people
    #49 Germany:
    0.0116461 per 1,000 people
    #50 Tunisia:
    0.0112159 per 1,000 people
    #51 Netherlands:
    0.0111538 per 1,000 people
    #52 New Zealand:
    0.0111524 per 1,000 people
    #53 Denmark:
    0.0106775 per 1,000 people
    #54 Norway:
    0.0106684 per 1,000 people
    #55 Ireland:
    0.00946215 per 1,000 people
    #56 Switzerland:
    0.00921351 per 1,000 people
    #57 Indonesia:
    0.00910842 per 1,000 people
    #58 Greece:
    0.0075928 per 1,000 people
    #59 Hong Kong:
    0.00550804 per 1,000 people
    #60 Japan:
    0.00499933 per 1,000 people
    #61 Saudi Arabia:
    0.00397456 per 1,000 people
    #62 Qatar:
    0.00115868 per 1,000 people
    Weighted average: 0.1 per 1,000 people

    DEFINITION: Total recorded intentional homicides, completed. Crime statistics are often better indicators of prevalence of law enforcement and willingness to report crime, than actual prevalence. Per capita figures expressed per 1,000 population.

    SOURCE: Seventh United Nations Survey of Crime Trends and Operations of Criminal Justice Systems, covering the period 1998 - 2000 (United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime, Centre for International Crime Prevention)

    I can't see the Philippines on the list or do i need to see my optician.
  2. Timn8ter

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    Comparative Criminology | Asia - Philippines

    This isn't the only Filipino website frequented by foreigners who feel they are duty bound to place negative postings every day. They probably feel they are "enlightening" others to the "realities" of living in the RP. There's nothing wrong with being informed and taking reasonable precautions but let's not overdo it shall we?

    (As a side note: New York City is often cited for comparison but it doesn't even rank in the top ten most dangerous cities in the U.S.)
  3. pickled_newt

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    I am sure myself and everyone will appreciate right or fair view of information . But couldn't stand the biased reportings against the Philippines. I had this online site qouted with the intention to show what this earlier report posted talking about crime and murder rate per capita of the Philippines as worse exceeding that of the US and top of the world is unreliable just b*****ks... must be on drugs.
  4. Kuya

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    Crime data relies heavily on the willingness of victims and/or their families to report incidents. This willingness has been shown to vary somewhat significantly across cultures. Therefore, raw data is often skewed and difficult to use for comparison purposes. Americans, in particular, are noteworthy for being "report-happy":

    "The culture of crime reporting is an interesting phenomenon: according to Lawrence Friedman's "Crime and Punishment in America," crime reporting has risen by 700 percent in the United States since 1970, even as the nation's crime rate has declined by 4 percent during that same period. The country is actually safer than it used to be, but you might not be able to tell that from following the news in local papers or on local radio or television."

    Regardless, saying that the Philippines has more crime than the U.S. is not possible. The Philippines does struggle with kidnappings and bombings, along with active Communist and Muslim insurgencies. However, it also has maintained a much stronger system of values than we have here. Family is still a basic foundation of the culture, while it seems to be waning in importance in the U.S.

    Anyway, maybe we can desist with the reciprocal country bashing. No place on Earth has ever been safe from the effects of human sin. Not the Philippines...not the U.S...not even Iceland. Not in King David's time...not today.
  5. Visayas

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    Even former President Fidel Ramos has admitted that police statistics showing an alleged "drop" in crime are misleading. The United Nations and Interpol must rely on crime statistics reported to them by the Philippine National Police (PNP).

    When the PNP leaders started coming under heavy criticism by the government for the rampant crime rate in the 90's, they decided it was better to under-report the true amount of crime, rather than be fired. That's why there was such a rapid, but completely phony, "decrease":

    "In any event, the president [Fidel Ramos] himself was quoted as saying police statistics showing a drop in crime were misleading."


    "Robbers are becoming bold. Before, they used to just tie up the security officers before they robbed a bank, but now they kill them first," Vice President Joseph Estrada, head of the Anti-Crime Commission, said in an interview.

    "Statistics say that the crime situation is roughly a little better than last year. However, the perception of the people is that it's getting worse," said Justice Secretary Teofisto Guingona."

    An Uphill Struggle Against Crime
  6. Visayas

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    It is most certainly possible for the Philippines to have a HIGHER PER CAPITA RATE of crime than the U.S.

    That's the number of crimes committed per one hundred thousand citizens.

    The Philippines has also emerged as one of the biggest drug manufacturing countries in the world. In the 1990's, they surpassed the notorious country of Columbia in cocaine production:

    "Nor has the government won the war against drugs, despite tough anti-narcotics laws. The country is now a major manufacturer of cocaine, producing 75 billion pesos (about $3 billion) worth annually, just slightly less than Mexico and ahead of Colombia, according to the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration. It also produces 36 billion pesos worth of marijuana each year."

    An Uphill Struggle Against Crime
  7. Visayas

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    You are correct.

    In 2005, NYC was rated as the SAFEST of America's ten largest cities. That's according to data compiled by the FBI Uniform Crime Reports for that year.
  8. pickled_newt

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    Never was too informed the Philippines had exceeded Columbia in terms of its notoriety and world status in drugs in early or middle 90's :p .While you put a source ,it doesn't really talked about it ,just rantings of Fidel ramos about drugs and normal issues of criminalities.

    Just wondering where you get the source info of it ,or was it only your assumptions to paint real scary picture.You made a quote, but didn't say who's it from. It would be interesting as to issues as controversial as that , will be appreciated if you'll put valid source from. Otherwise i will assume you made it all up,lol.:D

    Had been to thailand those times and lived there for less than a yr ,drugs were flowing everywhere .It 's a known attraction .Tourists who want good time,drugs etc barely pinned down.Full moon parties in Kho Pangan, happen to be my fab those days ,all flowing with drugs of all kinds.Authorities are going a blind eye of all those issues those times,donnu now.But place as Thailand is as easy to get drugs than pi ( in early -middle 90's) ,get stoned and no one questions .A place perhaps one can go crazy no one bothers.
  9. TUYOM

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    visayas hates the philippines and loves america.
  10. TUYOM

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    visayas hates the philippines and loves america.:rolleyes:
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