Discussion in '☋ Dumaguete City ☋' started by garbonzo, Jul 5, 2009.
Gee! No white hoods? How about some fiery crosses to go along with them?
I think the Revent goes the right way ; Unfortunately, everybody doesn't have the money to walk along the legal way. If some think here now to be able to solve this into Wild West manner, they are mistaken. This would trigger only a spiral of the force. . Instead of cedar and murder to cry and think to have to practice revenge, there should better help the victim financially.
Another possibility is, to set the local authorities under pressure, because such elements finally harm the reputation of the city of Dumaguete
Happy you are still around
I am deeply saddened by what happened to the reverend I only know him from his posts. Over the last year, I have found the reverend to be a true gentleman; I offer my prayers for your quick recovery reverend.
However as for having legal issues in the Philippines. When I started my case I was told 30 to 45 days and it would be over. Two years later it is still going on and hundreds of thousands of peso’s later. Still nothing that even resembles justice. It has turned in to a money pit with no end. I really understand why the Filipino’s do it the old fashion way instead of using the legal system. The legal system is only good for the attorneys and officers of the court. Expats are like having a free milk cow that never dries up for the legal system..they just keep milking you..but this is just my experience.
Your story is only too common, Teach. Much more common than actually getting any kind of "justice" through the court system. Unless one of the purportrators against you just happens to wind up in a ditch, (which does seem to happen much more often than anything being done through the court system) a court case will just keep getting postponed until someone runs out of money and/or time. In the meantime the persons who committed the crime against you are free on bail, still performing their tricks against others, and free to intimidate witnesses and family members until they are no longer willing to testify.
Same old story. Those expats that have been here a while know this is the truth. Hopefully the Rev's experience will be different, but only time will tell at this point.
Sorry, bucko, you are confusing vigilantism with the KKK. Vigilantism is
practiced every week here in the Gentle City, and no one seems to notice
when someone is gunned down by dark strangers on a passing motorbike.
Have you ever in your short lifetime heard of anyone being caught and
prosecuted? I didn't think so. Somehow the authorties always seem to be
looking the other way.
I think that something drastic should be done about the recent spate of shootings happening in this small city. It was never this way years back. I hope to see the day when these crime perpetrators will finally be locked up or punished accordingly.
yeah it is true..
Not only did it take a eight months to get the case filed. I had to do all of the investigation on my own the PNP never even came down to ask questions. The funny thing was that crooks knew the day the warrants where issued even before I did and then disappeared. later I found out that they had a relative in the PNP that called them. I did notice that the PNP never left there office to arrest them while they were still around.
In the Philippines they try to settle the case at the PNP office then with the prosecutors office and then in the court if you are unwilling to settle for money and want justice your case will just be postponed over and over until you run out of money or time.
An even if you settle for money it doesn't mean you will ever get any. Then you will have to file a new case to get the money and it starts all over again.
The eight months I was trying to get the case filed the crooks had nothing but to try to ruin my life and my business they did kill my business but not me.
By the way a life sentence is only 30 years.
and even if you manage to put the crook behind bars. You still have his relatives that may want revenge for the family member. So you have to spend years looking over your shoulder.
I was told by the few people I trust don't bother it is a waste of time but I did it anyway they where right.
It is just a matter of
how many long noses you have around. the more long noses you have the more crooks that can be supported. trickle down economics they see Dumaguete as a place where they can find money. So crime goes up..I may be wrong but it is only what I think.:D
I picked up on this thread late, but what an interesting read. There is a lot of very useful info here, and I agree with the assessments about the PNP, the judicial system, and Filipino loyalty to their own countrymen. It is in fact all very true.
Number one rule: As a foreigner, you are only as valuable as your ability to spend money, that comes to girlfriends, police, real estate, judicial system, even some wives.
You are one of the only sources for capital in the Philippines, OFW's not withstanding, they send their money to worthless relatives who squander it on all manner of stuff.
Anyone who thinks the Philippines is like Bermuda or even Jamaica, wake up. It's not.
Dumaguete is apparently undergoing some big changes, and what seems to be happening is the influx of expats has indeed drawn more criminals to the area. The unfortunate incident with the reverend is a matter of face, or Hiya as called in Tagalog I think. Maybe avoidable, maybe not.
Dumaguete crime is even spreading to Cebu now. A Swedish man wad stabbed to death hear by his ex girlfriends niece and accomplice last week. They followed him here from Dumaguete. They claimed he threatened them and tried to hold them hostage. But there was no evidence of that, and since he is dead, (can't talk) they will no doubt go free.
A life is worth between 5000 pesos and one million pesos here. If you are a foreigner and kill someone in a traffic accident, you will likely get sued for a million, even if the accident was the fault of a drunk Filipino. Witnesses quickly step forward.
I was the victim of a crime a year or so ago. Robbed at gun point. The perpetrators warned us not to report to the police. We did, and regretted it. Having a price on your head from the local underworld is not pleasant. The bandits were so connected they hired the most powerful lawyer in town. He in turn intimidated the police, an old story told again and again, but be warned, the police are behind much of the crime, or know the thieves and extract a "cut". The judicial system will bleed you dry, you will get little justice and the wrath of the person you accuse will be upon you. Better you hire a local to shot your enemy for 5000 P, its cheaper, and anonymous.
How is the Reverend nowadays? Never hear anything from him. Or maybe I was gone quiete awhile in the DI. I'm wondering if he have some latest photo collections?
To Rev. I hope you're doing fine. God Bless you.