⌛ Mechanical Insight??

Cool ,I always thought the inner engine separated the lower and upper engine and I told the owner that wet oil on the plug means loose seal on rings or gaskets somewhere in the engine...But then the excess reading on the dip stick stuck me and thinking not to act on it cause the engine hums just fine and smoothly once the rough cold start heats up..i like the wrong size dip stick theory and I will check it to see if it has an etching on it to recalibrate the reading it gives,the past mechanic may have done that and i hope he left an etch mark reassigning the full level...but dip sticks go right to the basin below the engine and it seems any dip stick longer or shorter cant dip deeper than the original would as they normally dip to the bottom??? I will search out what you guys mention here any way..Maybe a longer dip bends into the lower basin to fetch a higher reading?? thanks you..

 

What does the oil look like? How does it fell between your fingers? With the engine running try lifting the dipstick part way to see if you are getting a lot of blow-by on your rings. If the oil is very thin feeling you may be getting unburned fuel leaking down past the rings and mixing with the oil. Multicabs are so common here I am sure any local mechanic can let you know what the oil capacity of the engine should be. Drain the oil, measure it. You can always pour it back in if it looks like new oil but I would treat it to an oil change filling it to proper volume and then see what the stick says. That way you will know the engine is filled correctly and the accuracy of your dipstick. There isn't any advantage to overfilling the crank case. Good luck. Another thought; check your exhaust pipe for wet sooty oily residue.

 

You should change the oil immediately. The capacity is 3.5 liters WITH oil filter, 3 without. Then mark your dipstick, as that will be the "full" level.

Running overfull will cause smoking/oil consumption, fouling of plugs, poor fuel economy, etc., and will "whip" air into the oil, which will in turn lessen engine lubrication.

Larry

 

I havnt touched the car since my last post but I'm gonna follow the ideas you guys left here and change the oil as the end result..Cool thanks again,the thing has an oil filter under it so I will be sure to get new one of that also....

 

You forgot to mention that the oil pump is like a spoon and needs a bit of airspace above it to throw the oil properly.
It can't work properly if the oil is too high in the block.
(Shade tree mechanic since age 16, not great, but have a general knowledge when it comes to older vehicles).

 

The oil pump is nothing like a spoon an anything other than air cooled engines without pressure lube system. On a pressure lube system like a motor vehicle, it is generally a vein or gear pump, and air is not part of the requirements for it to operate.

Larry

 

By Derek Odom, eHow Contributor

The Pickup Tube
In most applications, the oil pump is found inside and above the oil pan and is actuated by gears either on the end of the distributor or the crankshaft. As the engine spins, the gears in the oil pump rotate and cause the pump to cycle oil. The pickup is a tube located on the end of the pump itself that dips into the oil pan. Once the gears are spinning, the pump operates much like a vacuum and picks up the oil from the pan to distribute it throughout the engine block for cooling and lubricating purposes. If the engine is low on oil, the pickup tube will not be able to provide lubrication to the engine due to being above the pool in the pan.

Larry, I don't think you will have any better luck with me here than you had inn other forums.
Please, I have warned you in the past I won't respond to your threads, but you have to stop jumping on me.
Truce?
Or goose?


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Okay, now I have my story straight.
The pick up screen and arm do look like a spoon, but don't whip as I had originally thought.
The spoon shape is so the oil can be collected easier, even if the oil level becomes low.
In other words, it faces upward towards the downfalling oil.
I would imagine that if the oil went below the screen, all would be over for the engine, no matter which way it faces.
Too full though and the oil can froth and the air from above the oil would be pumped along with the oil, possibly, but not necessarily causing a form of vapor lock in the oil pump at them worst and at best, lubrication would possibly be hindered due to the frothy mess.
There are two trains of thought on the "froth" theory, most mechanics say it is a myth, but others believe it to be true.
Sorry Larry, as I stated, I was a "Shade Tree" mechanic, not a pro.
I only remember what used to be and haven't turned a bolt for a few years now, so my memory may be off.

 

Bruce, to set the record straight, on many air cooled and smaller engines there is no pressure lube system (no oil pump). The engine is lubricated by a dipper (spoon?) which "tosses" oil about in the engine. However, this method of lubrication has not been used on automobiles that I know of, at least fir the last 80 years.

As for your comment in the previous post, I was not "jumping on you", I was simply correcting a misleading statement. Nor did I bring up the fact of who you are and your ethics, or rather lack thereof. Unless you provoke me to do otherwise I will continue to do so, and leave it at that.

Larry

Larry

 

well, whatever is going on here, member "shadow" is one of the real old-timers here and his posts are always very precise no matter what topic (mechanical issues, visa issues, travel issues etc.).

After consulting the Site-admins, neither they nor I see any "jumping on anybody".

On DI we do not care about anything on other boards, websites and so on, we are also not interested in any private issues between members.

In that specific case, we can't see anything wrong and we also can't look into members heads what is going on or happened in the past.

For one it might look like a spoon for others not.

Funny story what happened to me in Puerto Galera:
I was guiding thousands of dives there. One dive-site is the horse-head. Well for me it looks like everything but not a horse head. The first 3 times I went there with my divers I simply missed it and you can imagine how "happy" my divers were.

I needed another guide to show me the "horse head" again ... and it still is no horse head to me.

peace and kumbaya

Rhoody