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  1. ana conda

    ana conda DI New Member

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    Hi CRISSAR

    You haven’t answered my question ,but it doesn’t matter if you don’t want to.You must have read the criteria and guidelines for acquiring british nationality during your naturalization process. There’s no such requirement in the british naturalization to renounce the foreign applicants other citizenship , or in our case being FILIPINO CITIZENS, only as long as all the specific stated criterias for naturalization are meet. This is when dual nationality can happen, and it is allowed by British law ,and this literally means by holding two different citizenships simultaneously. Unless you went on special kind of process to renounce officially your filipino citizenship in legal terms with your signature on it .Which sounds unfamiliar ,unless for specific reason that is very private.

    The reason I asked you ,but not being too nosey , because if one can go through as being naturalized British and without the necessity to renounce the other citizenship ,then why still bother to relinquish your filipino nationality when not required in such respect .Only to officially apply for Filipino citizenship back again few years later.

    Most Filipinas I knew here in the UK who also married to brits did the retain in situ their filipino nationality while gaining british citizenship. All we did was only renewing our Filipino passports when needed,and can be done easy only by post addressed to the Philippine embassy in London with little payment . Although mine was renewed in Cebu several years ago for reasons to look like I am living in the Philippines . And by the way I have lived here in the UK for 17 odd years now .So it made me wonder, and the law has never change much regarding this respect of dual nationality. I presume your husband must have known it.

    an
     
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    chrissar DI Senior Member

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    Hello again ana conda,

    As I've said before, we never had in our agenda to own properties back home let alone retire the sooner. My very reason why I acquire British citizenship coz it was difficult for us to travel and we can't be bothered to go to different embassies to apply for visas. Maybe back then, I never thought how important it is to retain my Filipino citizenship- did not just bother to renew my passport. But mind you, there were too many of us just on that very day when I had my re-taking of oath of allegiance.... kuno.....3 from London....

    In my heart and in my deepest soul I am a Filipino and extremely proud to be one. Cheers....
     
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    for wretched_hyena

    Here is an anwer to your question in regards to the balikbayan visa for a former Filipino citizen who has become an American citizen. I got it from this website: Philippine Consulate in Los Angeles

    Who are exempted from getting visas to the Philippines?

    Case 2: Former Filipinos.

    Former Filipinos who are now naturalized citizens of the United States who wish to visit the Philippines for tourism purposes can avail of the "Balikbayan" status. As a "balikbayan", the former Filipino can enter the Philippines without a visa provided he shows any proof of former Philippine citizenship (e.g. old Philippine passport , birth certificate or naturalization papers) and stay for a year or less in the country.
    Foreign spouses and children traveling with the former Filipino citizen may avail of this privilege by presenting legal documents establishing their relationship with the former Filipino citizen upon arrival in the Philippines (e.g. marriage certificate in case of husband or wife or birth certificate in case of children).
     
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    Here is another question that was answered in that website regarding land ownership in the PI if you're a naturalized American citizen:

    Any natural-born citizen who has lost his Philippine citizenship may acquire a private land up to a maximum area of five thousand (5,000) square meters in the case of urban land or three (3) hectares in the case of rural land to be used by him/her for business or other purposes. In the case of married couples, one of them may avail of the privilege herein granted (please see Republic. Act 8179, Sec 10).
     
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    That is the visa rules. In actual practice though we've gotten balikbayan visas without ever showing any paperwork, not even once. Just asked the immigration officer on arrival and they were nice enough to give one. A couple times we got them without even asking...they practically insisted on it....no complaints from us...
     
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    Correct me if I'm wrong....but I'm sure that until a few years ago when a Filipino took out citizenship in another country - they automatically lost their Philippines citizenship. It's not the issue of whether Britain, Australia, USA etc recognized dual-citizenship...most Western countries do nowadays...but that the Philippines didn't. That was changed just a few years ago and has kept the embassies and consulates a little busier processing former Filipinos applications to regain their citizenship.
     
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    DUAL CITIZENSHIP BILL CITIZENSHIP RETENTION AND RE-ACQUISITION ACT OF 2003 (REPUBLIC ACT NO. 9225)

    Garbonzo, you are very right. Dual citizenship was implemented to be specific under Republic Act No. 9225, which took effect on the 17 September 2003. So, Filipinos who acquired citizenship of a foreign country before the mentioned date, have lost their PHILIPPINE CITIZENSHIP. So, therefore and henceforth, the above-mentioned can ONLY RE-ACQUIRE PHILIPPINE cITIZENSHIP thru taking OATH OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE REPUBLIC. And "Natural born citizens of the Philippines who, after the effectivity of this ACT, become citizens upon taking the aforesaid oath".
     
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    :rolleyes: ANA CONDA,
    For your curiuosity sake and to mention, my husband knew the law with regards to dual citizenship. I acquired my British Citizen before the DUAL CITIZENSHIP was implemented. Check out the Implementing Rules and Regulations for R.A. 9225. It might be of help to you.:rolleyes:
     
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    Ana Conda, it's me again. If you have acquired Dual Citizenship, I would have presumed, you must have applied to be of British citizen recently, I mean before the Dual Citizenship was implemented- SEPTEMBER 17, 2003. Just wonder why..???... I do hope I had satisfied and gave you ANSWERS, out of your curiosity about my citizenship. Hhhmmmm.... Changing and acquiring British citizenship was our choice but dropping my natural citizenship was not our choice (having applied before the implementation of R.A. NO. 9225.) Every citizens of the Republic of the Phils, acquired foreign citizens by naturalization IS subject and therefore, affected by the REPUBLIC ACT NO. 9225.:D :D :D
     
  10. Myra

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    Advise/suggestions on how to go about it

    Thank u Sheelah for asking these questions - as i am also interested in the comments.
    I was also given the name of the HSBC bank - to be a good bank for transferring and managing your account from your country.
    I am from South Africa - thinking about the same things.
    Success in your future plans.
    Myra

     
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