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Our damaged culture needs urgent repair

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  1. Brucewayne

    Brucewayne DI Member

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    I am putting my wife's younger sister through school here in Cebu and she is in her first year of high school
    None of the schools she has gone to as she grew up taught any history at all pertaining to WWII.
    Mostly, they have been taught about the 550 years of Spanish and U.S. repression and Lapu Lapu.
    Absolutely nothing is taught about Germany,s Hitler and his role in WWII.
    They wear the swastika on buildings and tricycles like a decoration here and are proud to bear it.
    I am not talking about the Chinese version which is a good luck emblem, but the one the Nazis used, turning clockwise.
    If necessary, I can take a pic or two to emphasize my point.
    I don't think they were taught about the world oppression that emblem represented or they would spit on it, rather than revere it.



     
  2. Rhoody

    Rhoody DI Forum Luminary

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    well,seems the history-lessons from your country of origin are not much better..

    the swastika is a Indian symbol used since a couple of thousand years, no matter which way it turns and is widely used in south east asia, mainly in the clock-wise turning way.

    No I am not defending the German past in any way, just setting facts straight.
     
  3. Brucewayne

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    Nice, I just looked it up and the Jewish religion were also using it in the clockwise fashion long before German Nazis adopted it in 1920.
    One learns something new every day, don't we?
     
  4. Rhoody

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    certainly :smile:
    Even I was aware of the origin of the symbol, it was still a kind of strange when I traveled Bali the first time some 20 years ago to see it almost at each city-limit post.

    Anyway, trying to get the bridge to the OP (to the third and last time before I will close this thread) many of the experiences here coming down to the "fiesta" and "that will do"mentality.

    panem et circenses ...well, for the PI Oryza sativa et circences
     
  5. Kojak

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    Just my opinion.... but yes

    Regardless of the monetary contribution.... this is "their" country.... we have no "right" to be here without their permission.... so we are "guests"

    In american we rightfully demand that visitors respect our nation.....its traditions ,customs and laws..... we do NOT expect visitors to treat our women like whores..... we rightfully expect our visitors to observe common courtesies irrespective of their economic status or cultural background.... there is a movement to make English the national language and FORCE visitors and immigrants alike to only use English in official dealings.... we get angry when guest boo the national anthem.....fly their nations fly above our own.... violate common acceptable behavior just because they are in another country

    The Philippines also has the same right to expect similar behavior from their "guests".....

    There are rules for the host; there are rules for the guest.... fortunately here most guests and hosts observe and obey those unwritten rules
     
  6. Kojak

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    I agree..... each symbol must be evaluated with regard to the "reason" that symbol is being used.... an American Indian who displays the ancient swastika symbol as part of his heritage that pre-dates other use of the same symbol.... is just honoring his heritage... not necessarily aligning himself with a political movement or ideology
    The American southerner.... proud of his confederate rebel heritage.... is not necessarily a racist just because he has a Confederate battle flag on his truck

    Symbols must be evaluated acording to the intent of the user

    In America.... the KKK is the symbol of racial bigotry
    In the Philippines.... the KKK is the symbol of the struggle for freedom and independence in the Philippines
     
  7. Rhoody

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    please mail me that source, mine only go back to the ancient Troy in europe and a tribe in china (about 3000 b.c) where signs similar like that were used for decoration but not related to the Swastika used as a symbol with its meaning.


    well... done
     
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