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Pay for snorkeling?

Discussion in '☋ General Chat ☋' started by testonilo, Jun 12, 2010.

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  1. Pedro

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    Oh Diver you did not catch that this longnose is protesting for his Pinoy friend who cannot afford to snorkel off of the beach. He is only trying to protect the Pinoy people long distance, he should be excused for his demands since he is being so noble.
     
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    Thank you Pedro :D

    So I have to understand that he is very social to his friend but not to all the people who take care of our beautifull sanctuaries.:confused:

    Greetings J.Diver
     
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    everyone should be able to enjoy

    Diver,

    You and most long nose aren't complaining because you guys can afford it. As the others have pointed out, there are plenty of local residence that can't afforded it. Why is it only the rich gets to enjoy the protected marine sanctuary? When you have a family of 5 or 6, that adds up to a lot of SML. But it's more than about paying a small fee.....

    Where does one draw the line? Someone has to maintain, clean, picking up litters in public beaches, parks, streets....should we start charging kids for using swing sets at the park too? IMO, it's the local governments interest and responsibility to take care of all public assets & resources & this certainly includes the marine sanctuary. For those thinking that the government aren't getting enough tax $$ to do their job & are economically well off can start a designated fund for the sanctuary but let's not deny those/families whom are financially challenged the opportunity to enjoy the marine park...it is after all, their city & their home.
     
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    First of all I was living in Dauin for 2 years and don't know ANY local resident who has to pay there for going in the ocean (That is actually also verified by the Dauin Municipality, so feel free and ask there).

    second, The OP is talking lies and BS from head to toe, I guess something like his pride is hurt by people who tell him that...

    third, locals get very low and discounted prices, from Apo Island to Twinlakes and other tourist attraction.

    4th.) there are also nice coral gardens outside the sanctuaries and for free, those guys might just be to lazy to move 50 meters. Between Lipayo and Bahura are about 6 km coastline, 1 km of that might be protected with Dauin Poplacion (or known as Dauin Norte and Sur to diver) the largest with slightly over 200 meter. If people do not find a place in the other 5 km each discussion w/ them is useless anyway...

    5th the line gets drawn when the those rich foreign long-noses pay for the maintenance of those and locals going inside walking without any respect for the environment over corals totally unaware, catching fish and breaking corals, mainly because of education reason and the lack of knowledge how to interact with the local environment and marine life.

    6th even resident foreigners in Dauin and Masaplod know how to deal with the Banday Dagats in this area and unless they are also to stupid to communicate do not get charged for a swim or a quick snorkel inside the sanctuary.

    7th that all comes down to point 2, that the OP is just blowing hot air and karabow poo.
     
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    That is a VERY good example.. if you leave it to those who own it, world-class dive-sites like DUCOMI get destroyed, even there were already funds and options to save it, but locals don't give a bloody sh... about environmental protection.

    Another "local" place is the kids playground at Quezon park where some of the swings are just life-threatening and again no local cares at all. What a shame....

    There are reason why there is no single successful run local resort in tourist areas here and most other regions of the PI, and it is not the money, there are enough rich local families here. All successful resorts in Dauin are foreigner run and sweeping millions of dollars in the local economy and create that funds you are talking about.

    Yes, I absolutely do believe that this gives the right (even to "just" tourists and guests in this country) to draw a line and protect the interests of guests in the PI as well as the interests of the tax-collectors and should be the interest of everybody to protect at least a tiny little bit of environment...

    There are hundreds of examples what happens if things are run the local way ...
     
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    I stirred up a can of worms here. I want to thank Rhoody for his input. I also thought cameras were extra for divers and not snorklers by the way I interpreted the signs on the beach. However, as you know, you really can't know in the Philippines.

    I'm now back in Alaska, just wishin' and a hopin' I could get back to Dauin soon. The economy here is kinda bleak for some people. My contractor went from 75 to 80 houses a year down to 7. It doesn't look good here. My belief is "better to be poor and happy rather than rich and miserable. "Its not how much you have, its how much you 'enjoy' that makes happiness. You lucky friend and foe alike (regarding my post), when all is said and done enjoy yourselves and pray that this BP oil spill never reaches the sacred shores of the land of my forefathers. Corporate greed is ruining the planet. No reply expected. Have a good time and maybe I can meet some of you on my next trip.
     
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    Sorry didn't figure out you were talking about diving.

    You are correct with the fee for diving,

    Snorkeling 50 Peso
    Diving is 150 Peso,
    Diving w/ Camera 200 (well that's something I do not understand)
    Nightdiving 300 Peso

    Some Resorts include that in the diving price, others charge extra. Dauin Residents can get their tickets usually at the municipality office.
     
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    Sorry didn't figure out you were talking about diving.

    You are correct with the fee for diving,

    Snorkeling 50 Peso
    Diving is 150 Peso,
    Diving w/ Camera 200 (well that's something I do not understand)
    Nightdiving 300 Peso

    Some Resorts include that in the diving price, others charge extra. Dauin Residents can get their tickets usually at the municipality office.
     
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    Actually, you are technically incorrect in that statement I believe, 10m from high tide mark is classed as "salvage" by the DENR and is available to the government to do what they like with it. (Though in most cases they don't & won't). When you buy a beach lot, for around the last 10-15 years or so, they have been chopping off that specific amount on most titles.
    If you object to that in person, at a DENR office, they will allow you the complete area you bought, but the salvage area will be 10m by x m long, this is included under the section, "liens & encumbrances" on the title.
    You can get around this by renting the foreshore lease of the beach in front of your property, so the beachfront area is kept clear.
    You can of course ignore all this, build a permanent structure on the salvage area and not give a flying toss about central government's authority, which most of the locals do anyway.:D
     
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