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  1. logicwings

    logicwings DI Member

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    RHB accuses President Bush making false statements, however it is a fact RHB made a false statement when he said the US Navy was in Dumaguete to LOOK FOR OIL in the Tanon Strait.

    If President Bush is a liar, so is RHB.
     
  2. logicwings

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    I am tired with all the "Bush Lied" rhetoric currently being flung far and wide by a few members on this forum. There is little indication that Leftists are rational with it comes to their hatred of President Bush.
     
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    "One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line." Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

    "Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face." Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

    He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983." Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

    "Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process." Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

    There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies." Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, Dec, 5, 2001
     
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    "We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandated of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them." Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

    We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country." Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002
    "Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power." Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

    "We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction." Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept.
    27, 2002

    I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force-- if necessary-- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security." Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

    There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction." Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

    He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do" Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002
    In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons." Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY),
    Oct 10, 2002

    We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction." Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

    "Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ..." Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003
     
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    "Shall we agree China slapped the U.S. in the face causing embarrassment and loss of Face." RHB

    "We posses indisputable sovereignty over the South China Sea islands and the adjoining waters," China Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Jiang Yu, 23 Jan 08.
     
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    Keep bashing the United States RHB. One day China will claim the Philippines. People like you are useful idiots for the China regime.
     
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    Watch it, Logicwings.
     
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    You've gone way over the edge.
     
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    He he. And you are talking about leftist's!!!!

    Have you all read this book."THE GRAND CHESSBOARD - American Primacy And It's Geostrategic Imperatives,"
    Zbigniew Brzezinski, Basic Books, 1997.

    According to his resume Brzezinski, holding a 1953 Ph.D. from
    Harvard, lists the following achievements:
    Counselor, Center for Strategic and International Studies
    Professor of American Foreign Policy, Johns Hopkins University
    National Security Advisor to President Jimmy Carter (1977-81)
    Trustee and founder of the Trilateral Commission
    International advisor of several major US/Global corporations
    Associate of Henry Kissinger
    Under Ronald Reagan - member of NSC-Defense Department Commission
    on Integrated Long-Term Strategy
    Under Ronald Reagan - member of the President's Foreign
    Intelligence Advisory Board
    Member of CFR
    Past member, Board of Directors, The Council on Foreign Relations
    1988 - Co-chairman of the Bush National Security Advisory Task Force.
    Brzezinski is also a past attendee and presenter at several conferences
    of the Bilderberger group - a non-partisan affiliation of the
    wealthiest and most powerful families and corporations on the planet.

    "... But in the meantime, it is imperative that no Eurasian challenger emerges, capable of dominating Eurasia and thus of also challenging America. The formulation of a comprehensive and integrated Eurasian geostrategy is therefore the purpose of this book." (p. xiv)
    "The attitude of the American public toward the external projection of American power has been much more ambivalent. The public supported America's engagement in World War II largely because of the shock effect of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor." (pp 24-5)
    "For America, the chief geopolitical prize is Eurasia... Now a non-Eurasian power is preeminent in Eurasia - and America's global primacy is directly dependent on how long and how effectively its preponderance on the Eurasian continent is sustained". (p.30)
    "In that context, how America 'manages' Eurasia is critical. Eurasia is the globe's largest continent and is geopolitically axial. A power that dominates Eurasia would control two of the world's three most advanced and economically productive regions. A mere glance at the map also suggests that control over Eurasia would almost automatically entail Africa's subordination, rendering the Western Hemisphere and Oceania geopolitically peripheral to the world's central continent. About 75 per cent of the world's people live in Eurasia, and most of the world's physical wealth is there as well, both in its enterprises and underneath its soil. Eurasia accounts for 60 per cent of the world's GNP and about three-fourths of the world's known energy resources." (p.31)
    "It is also a fact that America is too democratic at home to be autocratic abroad. This limits the use of America's power, especially its capacity for military intimidation. Never before has a populist democracy attained international supremacy. But the pursuit of power is not a goal that commands popular passion, except in conditions of a sudden threat or challenge to the public's sense of domestic well-being. The economic self-denial (that is, defense spending) and the human sacrifice (casualties, even among professional soldiers) required in the effort are uncongenial to democratic instincts. Democracy is inimical to imperial mobilization." (p.35)

    And we still wonder why USA are having a war going on in Afganistan and Irak. And prepairing for a war with Iran.
    "Off course this have to do with human and females rights"
     
  10. logicwings

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    Brzezinski is another tired, discredited voice of the appeasement wing of US politics. His Carter administration contributed immeasurably to all of Islamic terrorism in the past 25 years. Had the Shah been supported rather than abandoned, we never would have seen anywhere near the same extent of Islamo-fascist terrorism. Hezbollah and Iran's so-called "Revolutionary Guards" have spread much of the funding, weapons and training which enabled terrorism to become such a scourge. We had a bulwark against Islamic extremism in the Shah and his military, but they weren't politically correct enough for Jimmy Carter and his National Security Advisor.
     
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