Cheers for the reply Rhoody I really don't want anyone to think that I'm getting on a high horse by making undeserved criticism when I do know that many good things are happening. It's just that I really do care and believe that it would not take much (relatively speaking) in a few areas of the Philippines to bring sites up to a level where they are better than most other palces in SE Asia. You're lucky in Dumaguete to have Silliman there. However, this does put a bit of pressure on you guys to set the standard and lead by example. Many people want to learn from Dumaguete's example to duplicate the models that work there. So, reading on this forum that fish traps have caused criticism for you guys is not good - reagardless of where they are placed or how people explain them away. If they camnnot be removed, better not to take divers anywhere where they will see traps (in my opinion). For example, if I paid 350 pesos and saw a fish trap, they I would feel that I had been cheated. Many others would go further and just shred the trap. I have witnessed this many, many times. Therefore, if you are charging a park fee and fishing/traps are allowed (on some sites), then you must make this clear to divers in advance and explain carefully why this is. Then. they can make their own decision whether to dive there or not.