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  1. yabs

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    if you read my post properly you will realize that i am talking about package tourists. packages of all kinds should be outlkawed
    it puts too many people in one spot too soon
    and actually means a lot of money is not spent inside the country but mkerely goes to big resort owners and third parties in the respective travelers countries. Not to mention the affect mass scale tourism has on the environment.
    if you cannot organize travel yourself then you don't deserve to travel
    simple as that
     
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    This is a good message earlmj and very positive , thanks .:smile:
     
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    ... and if you can't produce your own fuel, don't drive a car, motorbike or fly by plain....

    Yabs, it's not that easy, A lot of money goes back to the investors, those guys who build the resort, invest in the network of promotion and and and.

    But also each employee of a resort, Hotel, Diveshop is able to buy food and pay for medical supplie and educations for many family-members. He/She would not be able to do that without that Job in a Tourist resort.
    I guess Marcus from El Dorado empoys around 200 people all together incl. Why Not (what is owned by them) the resaurant and the deli next to it. So we are talking easily about 800+ people living of that money in the families. The package tourists fill also some airplanes and give them the rice on the plate.... This is an endless chain...

    I just hope you work offshore for a philippino company and also invest in this country, or maybe you just wanna sit at a nice place where the infrastructure is also provided partially from the tax-income because of this tourists...

    So better sail with your self-made floating-advice back to the philippines, cause if you can't do that you don't deserve coming here. (just to use some of your own ideas:D )

    cheers

    Rhoody
     
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    LOL, that's ridiculous. Crikey, see a doc for some anti-depressants..For starters a lot of old people want/need the security of having fellow travelers with them. Also, many people have poor or zero English abilities...what, they shouldn't travel to please your ecological ambitions (which reminds - hope you're not shooting seismic offshore for oil companies - not that I have a problem with it...love oil companies as investments - definitely my favourites)? And why no package tours?..We've done a couple ourselves in Europe, nice to have the friendly company of others interested in the same places and the knowledgable expertise in locations we've never been to help with understanding the history and significance of what we are seeing. I confess I normally don't bother with package tours - but they do have their uses. Only complaint...too much going on to get a good sleep-in sometimes..Thinking about doing another to Canada, next summer...theirs...

    I'm tempted to organize a package tour to Dumaguete myself. Hit a tourist spot that'll please us...your apartment, singing Christmas carols, in Korean....
     
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    In most instances i really couldn't care less about the mostly greedy adn already rich investors from large big resorts such as bluewater etc.
    I'm also sayi ng thats its rather sad that people only travel when they see a place in a big glossy magazine at thompson scum cook it.
    Thats why at the momment the Phils atracts more quality tourist
    ie divers and eco tourists and not some sun sand and kiss me quick types
    who have no desire to see nemo or even know what he looks like outside of a cartoon.
    there is a huge difference between booking your own travel and producing your own oil. Its so easy to do it on your own these days with the internet then there is no excuse
    Thailand has package tours for years but it has not helped any locals at grass root level
    mass tourism causes bubbles in the economy meaning locals are priced out the market for entertainment and accomodation
    many resort to prostitution to makes ends meet
    you mention why not and el dorado
    but how much money ends up in foreigners pockets here a nd how much ends up in local pockets
    said foreigner is onbvioulsy doing quite nicely at the expense of employing his staff on the slave wages of 100 p a day.
    Apo island is the only example of how tourism shoud be any where in the world
    ands even thats not perfect and is also at risk from increasing big boat loads
    from dive shops trying to cash in on it
     
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    Very few foreignors are dumb enough to pay less than the minimum wage...if they do it's an open invitation to getting rogered big-time. I've never known anyone that stupid...
     
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    ... and eating Mc Donalds with 20 max. 17-year old girls dancing almost naked...

    BTW, Just to ley the others also know that you have many times no clue what you are talking about:
    Apo Island has more coral damage then the Dauin-area (many of them not caused by divers) the Tourist-local ratio is way higher than in the Dauin-area, and the man who has the most benefit has 2 castels (not only) around Dumaguete...

    to use your words:Apo island is the only example of how tourism shoud be any where in the world

    yeah, you're right

    Rhoody
     
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    OK, no complaints from me.......I'll force myself just to make a point.....LOL...maybe Devlin can arrange a fashion show....
     
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    i've no idea what the min wage is but i acn assure you that many bars along
    the strip pay their waitresses about 100p a day if that
    many resorts pay less than that becuase they provide a staff "house"
    with free "food".
    I suggest you do soem research, tourism min these countries has been a good way of providing money for corrupt governments, foreign investors and mafia and little else. foreigners hget tpo spend their life in paradise whilst the staff eek out a meagre existemce , giving uip traditional ways of life for the fickle tourism trade. small scale family run business and resorts which don't have hordes of package tourists are the only way to go if you want to help locals and the environment.
    as for my work, yes its seismic but i assure you that our boats generate zero pollution unlike a lot of dive boats who have open toilets.
    yes if you really want to please me bring a load of package korean tourists
    who collect coral fro souvenirs and do a culture tour of macdonalds and pizza hut.
     
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    Thanks yabs...but I am curious...who do you do the seismic for?..really it can only be oil companies (mostly) or offshore mapping for governments (lessly). I agree that seismic surveys are generally non-hostile to the environment...studies show that only marine mammals within a few k's are adversely affected...and fish within a few metres...otherwise no worries. However, most seismic is for oil companies....some better than others when it comes to the environment. Not that I'm fussed....but I generally invest in those with onshore programs anyway...cheaper to drill and develop.
     
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