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Nanny state mentality

Sure, but how about the way lots and lots of young filipinas are threated in the Philippines? It is not exactly like that is the safest place on earth or the best place to be born! But it is often easier to see the splinter in your neighbours eye than the wooden stick in your own, and that is obviously the case here.

If they really wanted to protect people against themselfes, how about making it mandatory to wear a helmet when riding a motorcycle and enforcing this law over the entire country? That might be a good starting point

 

Regarding Nationalism

Hello Lars,
Thanks for the informative reply, I am anxious to reply but it will have to wait a bit...I have a class shortly.
Take care and enjoy.
Jim

 

Treatment of women

I am not in any way involved with one of the bureau`s, that arrange au-pair stays. I heard about the new law or whatever it is of Mrs. Arroya from my friend, whos girlfriend has managed to secure a contract with a danish family by her own initiative.

She is 26 years old, well educated (finished college), perfectly capable of taking care of herself, and she certainly don`t need to be "protected" from herself by her own gowernment. Naturally therefore, she is quite irritated about this law and find it ridiculous. And so do I.

Luckily for her, she have powerfull people in her family, so properbly she won`t have any problems to get through the immigration in NAIA, as she can just "bully" her way through with assistance from her relative.

As for your claim, that all women are treated like prinsesses in the Philippines. Really? Then how come, that there are so many young single mothers, many of whome are forced to work as prostitutes to support their children?

It seems to me, that there are quite a few men - Phillipinas and foreign - that are not willing or able to take responsibility for the children, they have produced.

Should a girl be so unlucky to get pregnant in Denmark by accident or with a guy, who subsequently leave her, she can choose to have an abortion. Should she select to have her child, the father is mandated to support his child economically until the age of 18. This will be enforced by the authorities, and she will get some economic help form the government also (all parents do). To have an abortion or to deliver a baby in a public hospital is free of charge, and so is any kind of medical treatment in general. In return for this and other public benefits, everybody pay quite a lot of taxes.

If a women has married a guy, who treats her badly, i.e. is violent, she can divorse him and marry another guy, who will treat her better. She don´t need his consent or agreement to do this.

For these and many other reasons, I would say, that women are treated much better in Denmark than in the Philippines. But if you feel different about that - up to you.

Best regards, Lars

 

Lars,
I come from Holland and I think we don't differ a lot from the Danish people and the Danish government is most of the time in level with the Dutch government and laws.
But I have learned meanwhile that we can't condemn the situation in other countries (in this case the Philippines) with that in our own country of birth.
I believe that you're a sincere person and certainly don't want to insult people, but I can image now (after some short time living here) how it feels if you're judged like happening here.
I made the same 'mistake' myself some years ago on a Philipine forum and got attacked by some girls/women.
I'm still thinking the same as then but realize that I also should not like to be addressed by an American guy who is telling us (in Holland) that we are shortminded because we don't allow guns to be carried by everyone.
I hope you understand what I want to say.
In my honest opinion there is nothing wrong with your thread but keep in mind that we ourself are far from having the only correct attitude.
Hope to meet you once here. Skol !

 

Hi Jellyfish

I quite understand, what you mean, and it is a fine line between debating, which is constructive, and insulting, which is not.

I posted this thread mostly for the sake of information, not to discuss the Philippine law, which country treat women better etc. However, when others then bring up these subjects, I can se no reason as to why, I should not speak out my mind as well. If this has offended some of the readers - then so be it.

Personally I do not get offended, if a foreigner critizises things about Denmark. In some cases I will agree with him, i.e. if he say that our taxes are to high, that we have an awful government, or that our laws for immigration are a violation of human rigths. All these things are true in my opinion, and it will not hurt my feelings, if a foreigner think so as well. I do not have any illusion or dream, that "my" country is perfect, rather I have a wish to make it better.

If he say, that we should all be allowed to carry guns, I might think he is an idiot, but I will not be particularly offended by his stupid point of view, just because he is a foreigner.

Best regards, Lars

 

Point taken Lars !
Carry on (but no guns please).

 

sir, my question was plain and simple." In your country , is the women being treated like a princess ?"

I do understand , your desire to help , you think , that a desparate filipina in our country Philippines will take whatever at stake to go abroad. . In my opinion , it's always not the peasant and desparate , that willing to take the big risk in going to an unknown place or country. Its the one that have connection and know well the backdoor and red tape. Who are you trying to help here ? it is truly the peasant or the pleasant ?

It's good to know, their a lot of you here in the forum , wanted to help our poor fellow filipino , but.., please don't promote and find fault in our government , just to serve the few. Come to think , even a person has it all the necessary papers legally , to work abroad are being abused and cheated , how much more this hi-school graduate?. Here in canada , you can't apply here, without the equivalent of their grade V. Meaning in Philippines , two years in college or 72 unit at lest, to be qualified as care giver. A registered nurse in the PI ?, you come here , back to square one.
Do you know how many millions filipina mothers here abroad ? Do you know why they come here to work ? to send their children to school . To have a better and best education they can have , Sad to say, only a few appreciate their parents sacrfices.
In my own opinion, Their are things in life, that we can go through going backdoor, but most of the time and the safest is to follow the rules and fight your right if you are at right.

Kidding aside , Two of my classmate before in my nursing aid course are now in denmark. They mate this danish men here in our small town, while working in the windmill company.This guy, here for two weeks the most to check the operation and machinery. Thats all it takes . They got two of our girls. Three ! onecame back.

 

Nationalism cont'd

Hello to all,
Being a newcomer to this site, I am thankful to be learning about the Philippines and other points of view and it is exciting for me.
I am a gun toting American! (just kidding guys, I do not own a gun but have considered it for years). Incidentally, our mentality is derived, I beleive, from Colonial times where average citizens took up arms to fight off those d*mn oppressive Red Coats! Ever since, it has unfortunately been part of our culture and the thinking remains that an armed general population helps keep the government in check.
Anyway Lars, I wanted to continue the thread. There still seems to be quite a lot of Nationalism in the world. I believe it only serves to keep us separate. However, the world is getting smaller and people are coming together.
It seems to me that one of the main reasons the Philippine government makes it so hard for it's citizens to leave is money and economics. People are a country's greatest resource! It is not only lower skilled folks trying to make a better life for their families who are leaving. Many Doctors, nurses and engineers are leaving too. Who can blame them though. I certainly do not not mean to belittle the Philippino people or the country. I just think that most people want the same things in life. To have opportunity, to work and to secure a decent life for their families and themselves. These things must be extremely difficult for most to achieve in the Philippines.
I can sympathize with you in that it is frustrating when governments try to protect people from themselves (to coin a phrase). That is happening big time here n the States
In any case, I think the world must take baby-steps. Nothing good happens overnight, it's just comforting to know that the world is making progress-this I believe.
I wonder if Dumaguentia is asking if women are treated like Princesses in our countries? If so, I would answer with a resounding YES as far as the good ol' USA is concerned. It's too bad too (and I won't go into detail), I think American women have priced themselves clear out of the market-so to speak.
I a currently ending a 20 year marraige to one, and my Fiipina girlfriend is a breath of fresh air hahaha.
Oh well, I think that is an entirely different post.
Take care.

Jim

 

Its not so much the Philippines won't let folks go overseas, the U.S., Sweden, Germany, maybe others, are making it increasingly difficult for potential overseas workers, brides, and girlfriends to get visas. 18 months to 2 years and more application processing waits. In the end it often comes down to the person in question sitting across the desk from a lowly embassy worker making arbitrary on the spot descisions.